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Two of the masks I ordered have turned up, so I thought I would write up my mask experience so far.

(Note: if your skin is in any way sensitive, masks will scrape a layer off and there's nothing you can do except moisturize. Make-up will be destroyed, so get used to just doing your eyes.)

First is a laser-cut thick spandexy material from...ebay? Amazon?
Pros: It is light, fits well, easy to put on and off, makes you look a bit like Diabolik, and seems to keep the horrible coronadamp in. If you have a laser cutter you can get a pattern of etsy for US$.70 and make fresh ones whenever you like. If you don't, you can get a hand-cut pattern for about the same. No idea if they make one for Cricut.
Cons: Keeps the horrible coronadamp in so well that no matter how much you've brushed or minted, you will taste your own breath for as long as it's on. I sat on the bus bench outside Target waiting for a cab with my groceries and drank a bottle of chocolate milk because I hadn't had dinner. Imagine the smell of chocolate baby spew. Good for short trips but maybe not all day. I'd hand wash because I don't trust the ear holes to hold.

Second new one is a snazzy handmade Pokeball mask from Snowtigra on Etsy.
I've had it for all of two days and it's easily the best mask I own. I got the Pokeball fabric, which is bright and cheerful and so far makes people on public transport leave me alone. It's thick yet breathable, the cotton absorbs coronafog rather than returning it to you, it covers nose to chin, doesn't dig in my ears, and I can wear it for a long time without wanting to claw my face off. I'd hand wash because the elastic is the kind meant for lingerie, and there's a nose wire inside to keep the shape.

Bandana and hairband mask:
Instructions on cdc.gov. Pros: Easy to make, requires no sewing, but if you don't have bandanas in the house you may be out of luck unless you can cut up a cotton shirt. This mask totally does the job, but will be much more comfortable on your face if you can press the folds. If you don't have an iron, put it under a pile of books overnight.
Cons: If you don't have hairbands, you should be able to find a card of them at the drug store for $2-$5 depending on the quantity and colors. People have reported difficulty if they also wear glasses, but etsy and ebay both offer very inexpensive band extenders so you can stretch the elastic behind your head instead. Easy to disassemble and toss the bandana in the washer, then re-fold. (UPDATE: Drives the beagle next door apeshit, but most things do.)

Hacked up T-shirt mask:
Instructions also on CDC.gov, and there are videos on youtube as well.
Pros: Very easy to make - just a shirt, a pair of scissors, and two minutes. Horizontal designs/stripes are easiest to cut. Can be adjusted if you cut it too big. Ties on. (If you can't bear to destroy a shirt of your own, the cheapass shirts from the grocery store or drug store work perfectly well. If you feel like being more stylin', I recommend the kids' clearance at Target where you can find dinosaurs or phases of the Moon. Don't buy anything with thick silkscreen or heat-sealed rubber because you may die.)
Cons: Ties may not hold if your hair is very slick. I have to make a pony or sloppy bun get shit done and tie the ties to that - also it fits tighter if you put the lower ties over the pony or the top of your head, which is counterintuitive. Sucker stays on but taking it off involves swearing. Can probably go in the washer on gentle/hand wash.

Mystery molded mask from an ancient emergency kit Patti found somewhere in the office:
Pros: No idea how good it is, but it does the keep-your-breath-in thing, so I assume it's at least slightly effective. Easy to take on and off.
Cons: Perfect for your tiny mouth inhabitants to breed. Will eventually decay. Easy to crush in your bag. Use it if it's all you got. (UPDATE: I crushed it in my bag.)

Coming eventually: Tube masks, those Chinese masks from Amazon that are on a boat somewhere, Aziraphale plaid mask from Italy, and custom Redbubble masks that are starting to ship.

Not coming even though I really really want it: Full-head Spider-Gwen cosplay mask, and upcoming Marvel tube masks unless they change their minds and add a damn girl.

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Date: 2020-05-14 05:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
Yeah, I like cotton with elastic ear loops or ties. I make ear loops because ties are too complicated to sew for me.

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Date: 2020-05-14 05:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
Ooh, how do you make adjustable elastic?

Yeah, I'm splurging on fancy fabrics, because I figure that I can combine my "Helping people in need" money and my "Treats and hobbies" money for that, and there's not much else to spend on.

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Date: 2020-05-14 05:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
Ah yeah? I think I currently have zero anime lanyards.

Fat quarters of fabric are generally a couple of bucks apiece, and some of them are very pretty!

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Date: 2020-05-14 05:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
Ooh, like a toggle?

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Date: 2020-05-14 06:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
Ooh, nice!

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Date: 2020-05-14 06:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
I think they'e still toggles?

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Date: 2020-05-14 07:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
Thanks! If I see a little toggle like that, I'll buy one. But not the masks, no.

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Date: 2020-05-14 08:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kirbyfest
A Spider-Gwen mask would really be the best possible thing.

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Date: 2020-05-14 08:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kirbyfest
Very cool, very impractical. But so cool.

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Date: 2020-05-15 06:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] torachan
I really like the tube masks. It's what I wear for work all the time. It still causes my glasses to fog up, but at this point I really don't think there's such a thing as a mask that won't do that, so I guess it's just something I've got to deal with. But any masks that hook over the ears pull my ears forward and wearing that for 9-10 hours a day is just really unpleasant, so the tube masks are much better in that regard.

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Date: 2020-05-15 07:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danakate
Ooh, thanks for posting your experience. We have 2 N95 masks from wildfire season (go go Northern California), but they have exhalation valves, so we actually are not allowed to us them in public (unless we cover them with something). I've been fiddling with a couple mask patterns to find one that works best for us. My husband has an especially large noggin so it has been challenging. The over-ear elastic ones don't work for either of us, at least not "standard" sizes. So, I've been trying to make behind-the-head elastic ones.

The aplat mask (https://aplat.com/blogs/shus-notebook/diy-cloth-face-mask) is pretty simple to make, but fits weird over the nose, which isn't a surprise given its construction. I left one bottom seam open to put a filter material inbetween the layers vs just shoving a coffee filter in the fold like they show.


This pattern is fiddly af (https://www.craftpassion.com/face-mask-sewing-pattern/), but I wanted to try it because it had sizes and I made the largest one. Fits husband's face, but the liner fabric seems to get sucked into the nose too easily, which causes gag problems. Bonus: cricut SVG files at least.


The TM 2020 looks pretty promising, even if it is basically a feed bag. The instructions are...not really complete (and I've had to search around for news video coverage and text info to get alternate views): https://www.universityhealthsystem.com/~/media/files/pdf/news/tm-2020-mask-pattern.pdf But I think I've figured it out. I just need to adjust the elastic length and I think it'll fit. I've made the outer covering and it seems to work okay having that breath pouch I think is really clever. I have some air filter material I can use as an inner layer.

Ultimately, I think a simple pleated one with an emphasis on the pleats closer to the chin may result in better air capture before you pass out from inhaling fabric to your nose/mouth and CO2 buildup or whatever, plus having a pocket for a nose wire for better sealing up top.

The tube cowl thing is an interesting idea. I have a Buff (brand) long cowl thingie that I use for bicycling when the air temp is chilly but of course now I can't find it to see if I can double it up over my nose and not die.

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Date: 2020-05-15 07:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danakate
Yeah, the deal with the plugs/valves is that they're one-way. It prevents stuff from getting into the mask (ash, droplets, whatever) but allows stuff to get out. That is why they're not recommended for pandemic times.

Good luck with your mask endeavors! There are too many options, but also many different types of faces. I sort of wonder if we should just use our N95s with a t-shirt cover or something.

As for the filter, I haven't tried a coffee filter myself. I know all the guidance says "non-woven fabric" but it's not like everyone can tell what that really means. We have disposable shop towels that we fold in half that are okay. I've heard a folded paper towel/tissue will work in a pinch. It's a bit nebulous. :/

Re: Masks

Date: 2020-05-15 09:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danakate
I mean...it's all very American... T_T

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Date: 2020-05-16 07:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] torachan
Yeah, when I first found out about that sort of mask I went on Amazon to see what they had and there are tons and tons in all sorts of colors and patterns, but everything in plain colors and nice looking patterns was all sold out and the only thing still available from any brand/vendor was very biker looking stuff, like guns & flags and creepy clowns.

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Date: 2020-05-18 02:30 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danakate
Just tried another one: https://www.nursemade.co/

I think this one works the best for my husband. The nose dart pushes the top of the mask out and the pleats give him room to breathe (which makes sense, since this design was meant to be used standalone or over an N95-type mask).

I made one as-is with ties and I think I can mod it to use a single long loop of elastic that goes behind the neck and head if needed. There's also a pocket to put in a filter material if you have it. I cut up a soda can and folded it over to use as the nose wire.

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Date: 2020-05-19 05:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danakate
The action shot no one wanted: https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-DXgfkJT/0/X2/i-DXgfkJT-X2.jpg But it shows off the nose dart pretty well.

I made ferret face mask last night and made extra wide binding tape for the sides so I could thread through elastic cording and used a cord stop to secure it so now he won't have to fiddle with tying ties behind his head.

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Date: 2020-05-19 05:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfy_writing
Ooh!

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Date: 2020-05-19 05:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danakate
oops, try this link: https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kR7hmKw/0/df355fa6/X2/i-kR7hmKw-X2.jpg

and you're welcome XD i had to look up that product recently and i'm like "wtf is it called...squeezy thing doesn't seem to be it"

Re: Masks

Date: 2020-05-19 05:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danakate
Thank you! :D

I think the only other tweak I want to make is to put a bias tape "pocket" up top so that the nose wire is removable instead of sewn in. I'm not sure how well folded aluminum can will hold up in the wash or if it will eventually rip through the fabric, which would be sad.

Re: Masks

Date: 2020-05-19 07:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danakate
I've got some 16g wire that I might try. Might be too much wire for a facemask, but it certainly wasn't too much wire for what I wanted to use it for... :/

may your redbubble adventures be great :D

Re: Masks

Date: 2020-05-19 07:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danakate
Oh those are great and very on-brand for you. :D

Re: Masks

Date: 2020-06-13 10:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] danakate
Yet another mask link: https://www.vistaprint.com/masks/

My friend E got one and says that it does not fog up her glasses much, which may be a concern for some. I have since ordered a couple, but not sure when they'll actually arrive. I like that it has a nose dart and a chin seam. Cons: white liner (may become unsightly faster), polyester, wtf don't they let adults get the kid prints ffs

Anyway. Size wise they are at least as wide as the ones I made that we've been using, but we should have a few more and my desire to sew is kind of low so...yay, consumerism.

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