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TokyoPop is finally putting the eternally misguided Smile out of our misery and concentrating on graphic novels.

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Date: 2002-07-02 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theredwitch.livejournal.com
About fucking time! Huuuuge waste of shelf space, that one.

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Date: 2002-07-02 01:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
Even when they had stuff I liked, the tiny chapters, high cost, and unreliable distribution made me reluctant to buy it.

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Date: 2002-07-02 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theredwitch.livejournal.com
Yeah. It got a teeeeeeny bit better when they took out the teenybopper girlie-magazine shit, but still not enough to really make it worth buying.

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Date: 2002-07-02 02:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
Not to mention that it was a horrible, evil, outright damaging sort of teenybopper magazine. God, whoever used to write their 'Advice Goddess' should be staked over an anthill.

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Date: 2002-07-02 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theredwitch.livejournal.com
...drenched in honey. Mwahaha.

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Date: 2002-07-02 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hooverdam.livejournal.com
I'm actually suprised other manga publishers aren't following suit. Releasing manga in monthly comic book or magazine format just can't be cost effective. I'd much rather they just release a full tankoubon every (or alternate) month.

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Date: 2002-07-02 01:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
I've never understood the economics of US manga publishing. I imagine getting distribution for a relatively expensive, girl-oriented anthology comic was a pretty hopeless task, and their acquisition of Sailor Moon at the beginning was the only thing that kept them alive while they learned what the hell they were doing. As a consumer I find their graphic novels much more cost-effective than the magazine - and a great deal easier to obtain.

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Date: 2002-07-02 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hooverdam.livejournal.com
Likewise. The only TP individual issues we've ever had around here were the ones they sent us for free. Meanwhile, their recent output's had us making at least bimonthly trips down to Million Year Picnic for Peach Girl, GTO, Skull Man, and Initial D. I'm curious to hear about what they're going to announce (apparently not at AX but SDCC).

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Date: 2002-07-02 08:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
Of those, I've only read Peach Girl. How are the other three?

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Date: 2002-07-03 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hooverdam.livejournal.com
Let's see...Skull Man I'm not reading; it's Mike's thing. It's Shotaro Ishnomori, if that means anything to you; it's pulpy anti-hero sci-fi. Initial D is as shonen as Peach Girl is shoujo, but not shonen in the sense of robots/war/etc: It's about guys and their cars and general high school guy life stuff. Great cars, icky looking people. GTO is a MUST READ. Get the anime on DVD as well. Absolutely hysterical story of a gang member who decides he's going to go into teaching. I've never read/watched a show where the lead character was so thorougly Japanese and yet an utterly American hero (indeed, watching him fight with the administration is amusing because in the US, schools kill for teachers like Onizuka).

As far as TOKYOPOP's other recent output: Bought the first book of Kodocha and that seems to have turned out well enough. Have been skipping Marmalade Boy; might go back and pick it up at some point but I'm in no hurry. Got the first volume of Cowboy Bebop and even though it's my favorite anime of all time, the manga didn't thrill me; probably won't buy subsequent volumes. Utterly blown away by how well they handled Clover.

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Date: 2002-07-03 06:29 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
Oooo, thanks! Cool - I'll skip D and Skull Man and go for GTO, then. Haven't read Kodocha yet (my copy's in the mail, I'm told). Marmalade Boy is keen. I cannot disagree with you on Cowboy Bebop or Clover.

I wonder if they'll ever do Codename Sailor V. I've got it in French and it's a neat book.

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Date: 2002-07-02 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wednesday
And yet, we're suddenly getting Raijin and American Shounen Jump. Gotta be loss leaders. Gotta be.

I concur on the graphic novel thing. Do we know how well Eagle did for Viz?

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Date: 2002-07-02 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hooverdam.livejournal.com
Yeah, those two baffle me, because it seems like they'd know better, or at least Viz would. I'd like to see how Big O is doing in translation, I really would, but not until they publish the damn tankoubon. They're just wasting time, money, energy, and paper with those individual issues.

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Date: 2002-07-02 04:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wednesday
God, *CPM* gave up on individual comics. CPM, who were all about Geobreeders Part 47: More Boobies Over Many Years. CPM, of the "Really Long Playing Record of Lodoss War." CPM.

Dear Viz: Please meet 2002. It is not like 1996.

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Date: 2002-07-02 08:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
God, CPM has the *worst* distribution! Do they depend entirely on individual mail order or something?

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Date: 2002-07-02 08:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
And the tanks are already announced, so why on earth buy the individual issues?

Maybe they go to two different markets - the singles do better at comics stores, and the books...everywhere else?

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Date: 2002-07-02 08:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
They're loss leaders in Japan, so maybe they're trying to duplicate that model here.

Ahaha.

Date: 2002-07-02 01:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-mythril280.livejournal.com
My best friend buys that -_-

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