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Have found a Men in Black site whose owner is outraged, OUTRAGED by both the absence of Elle and the upgrade of the POS. Yes, she is PROUD TO BE MERCEDES-FREE! With multiple animated GIFs, she is proud!

Evildoers tremble.

To her I say, "subtext, dipshit"

Date: 2002-07-15 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com
I admit I missed Elle, too, but --

A black man who makes good used to buy a Cadillac. Now a black man who makes good, buys a Mercedes.

When Jay took over as top agent for MiB from Kay, he was a black man who made good, so of course the new hotness had to be a Mercedes...

...even if it ended up as the old busted hotness.

Re: To her I say, "subtext, dipshit"

Date: 2002-07-15 06:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
*snerk!*

A white girl who makes good buys a Volkswagon in a Website-exclusive color, then goes on and on about how it runs surprisingly well in the snow.

Re: To her I say, "subtext, dipshit"

Date: 2002-07-16 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delia97.livejournal.com
So sorry, girlfriend--- No VW internet edition here.

College costs money--- and I don't have the luxary of actually owning a car. I do have the comfort in knowing when I'm part of a film crew in the future--- depending on where I excel in my field of study, I can sit back and laugh my ass off at shallow people like you.

Thanx!
-Aron
a.k.a Agent Delia97
www.mibhq.com

Ok yeah--- what's with this fad of assosciating races and automobiles? Would have thought the human race would be beyond this by now. Go figure!

Re: To her I say, "subtext, dipshit"

Date: 2002-07-16 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finabair.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah, they run GREAT in the snow!!! I can't speak to the current ones but the 70s models were FABULOUS for these fun little sideways maneuvers that you really couldn't do as precisely in ANY other model car...

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Re: To her I say, "subtext, dipshit"

Date: 2002-07-16 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delia97.livejournal.com
ACTUALLY--- your theorem is incorrect.

Mercedes replaced the 1986 Black Ford LTD (Crown Victotia Police package) because they had the highest bribe, at more than a million dollars, to be placed in the movie. It's called Commercialism, and since MIB 1 came out on July 2nd, 1997, companies have been vying to be tied into the successful and lucrative market with the trade names MIB Men In Black and the like.

-Aron
a.k.a Agent Delia97
www.mibhq.com

Re: To her I say, "subtext, dipshit"

Date: 2002-07-16 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finabair.livejournal.com
True enough about the product placement, but the move wouldn't have happened had it not *also* made sense character-wise. Meaning both "theories" would be correct.

I SIILL say, "subtext, dipshit"

Date: 2002-07-17 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com
I wasn't speaking to outstory reasoning. I was speaking of instory reasoning. A good filmmaker doesn't just give no reason for major changes in the tenets of the universe. The black car with all the hypermods is a tenet of the universe, and since Benz won the bid, the story was adjusted accordingly to allow for its presence.

Thus, instory reasoning, they allowed for the "black man makes good, gets Mercedes" thing with the whole 'automatic pilot' scene. "It came with a black dude, but he kept getting pulled over." It is another reference to the "black man makes good" phenom. The authorities tend to think a black man with a Mercedes has either stolen the car in question or is a drug dealer.

I know perfectly well it was about who could put the most money on the table, thanks. Hello -- it's a movie. Movies come from Hollywood, the moneywanging capital of the world. That just isn't what I was talking about.

Okay, then.

Tapes...?

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Date: 2002-07-15 04:12 pm (UTC)
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URRRRRL

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Date: 2002-07-15 06:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre:

http://www.mibhq.com/

Lots of cool stuff, actually (animation sketches!). Shame about the bile.

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Date: 2002-07-16 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delia97.livejournal.com
I'll send your compliments of the sketches to the 3rd season producer and the background Designer for MIB The Animated Series.

As for bile?

I haven't thrown up in some time.

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Delia97 thanks you for being rude.

Date: 2002-07-16 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi, thanks for being rude--- and your information as well as rude posts will be publically mocked by a team of robots and a human on a Satellite orbiting Earth.

It's not as if people can't track you online. I found you easily :)


Aron
a.k.a Agent Delia97
www.mibhq.com
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
Er..."tracked" me in what sense? I'm confused. I've been exactly here.

Your site is lovely. Your outrage is hilarious, and your xenophobia is...unfortunate.

Re: Delia97 thanks you for being rude.

Date: 2002-07-17 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paradisacorbasi.livejournal.com
Rude? Oh, that wasn't rude. You haven't seen me get rude.

That was simply my pedagoguereque snobbery showing.

I have little to no patience or respect for people who fly off the handle without thinking things through. Does this mean I sometimes have little to no patience for myself? You bet. But at least I admit it about myself.

I stand by my statement that it makes sense that the Mercedes reflects not only product placement [the last couple Bond Cars have been Mercedes and/or BMWs, so it happens in more movies than this one] but also situational correctness for the story. Kay was the top agent, and he was more straitlaced about his way of doing things. Jay became the new top agent, and changed the way things operated.

People who can't cope with change, and get upset about it -- worry me.

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Date: 2002-07-17 02:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
Rude? Oh, that wasn't rude. You haven't seen me get rude.

Dammit, I wanted to say that!

Actually I think her comment was addressed to me, for daring to find amusement in her etc etc yadda yadda yadda rehash rehash rehash. She also, near as I can figure, appears to be congratulating herself on her MADDD SKILLIZZZ in being able to successfully execute a routine link-finding command.

::waves to grrrlbat icon::

Too Bad

Date: 2002-07-16 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The owner of this site has harmed no one. Those who can, do. Those who don't, teach. Those who can't, make fun of others. I've seen this site and you sound jealous. If the thought of someone having fun without any thanks to you is so disturbing, you'd better stay with your mommy little girl, you're not ready for the real world. You must not even have a job.

Re: Too Bad

Date: 2002-07-16 08:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
Gosh, courageous anonymous poster, thanks for sharing. While your willingness to stand up for (I assume) your friend is entirely admirable, I'm afraid your premise is faulty. I have every admiration for the site in question, and indeed have already said so. Delia's hard work is evident, and her collection of materials broad. It's comprehensive and easy to navigate. I am not envious - I've got my own stuff to do - but I am very impressed.

I am also, on the whole, in favor of fun for everyone on the planet, whether I am present or not.

None of this, however, means that I'm not allowed to mock yet another in a long line of dorky outraged fannish animated gifs - hers are not the first, nor will they be the last - or take exception to a statement that I find doofy and insulting on multiple levels.

Hee!!!!

Date: 2002-07-16 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finabair.livejournal.com
Those who don't, teach. Those who can't, make fun of others.

Others such as teachers?

Suggestion, which I feel obliged to make but which, if you take it, will make you/your friend less entertaining: Take the compliment for what it is, and understand that universal praise is frequently false; sometimes folks will honestly tell you what they *don't* like about your work, and in the end that's usually the more valuable feedback. It's easy to say you just love something unconditionally if you haven't actually looked at it, or if you don't care whether it could be improved upon. So if someone actually mentions what they *don't* like, take the gift for what it is. You don't have to change to conform to their viewpoints, but at least you know what some of your audience is thinking.

Re: Hee!!!!

Date: 2002-07-17 06:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
I thought it was "...those who can't teach, teach gym."

I love you, Agent Jaye.

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Heh.

Date: 2002-07-17 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkane156.livejournal.com
I saw that and immediately had a bad flashback to the "Season 3-Free Zone" websites that cropped up during the Due South Ray Wars. Ah, good* times...

*brain-meltingly annoying

And on a marginally-related note, did you get your copy of the TPB yet? Is there anything in it that isn't in the original comics? Like, say, a missing scene wherein Jay and Kay have barely-consensual sex on the hood of the Continental? Um, yes, I can dream...

Re: Heh.

Date: 2002-07-17 12:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
Ah, good times indeed. (Bashes head against desk.) Not to mention the Beauty and the Beast She's-NOT-Dead wars, the long and bloody X Files Balkanization, the War of the Worlds of the War of the Worlds, the Blake's 7 43-Man Squamish of Doom, the Buffy Troubles, the Robin of Sherwood Years of Bitter Struggle, and...I'm sorry, my brain's just leaked out and the cleaning crew'll get mad.

::wipes it up::

The trade paperback arrived yesterday, as a matter of fact. It's the first three issues, which means (trumpets, banners)....a NEW QUEST FOR THE REMAINING THREE!!! *ahem* Sorry. I've only had time to skim it. I've found an early version of Edgar Bug ("You'll get my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers." "That is acceptable."), and a soda-snorfing bit where Kay introduces himself and his partner as Agents Kaiser and North (oh, just ask your parents, and yes I am old). No rough sex on the hood of the POS that I can see, though they spend a lot of time in the MIB locker room. I'll certainly let you know if anything, er, turns up.

The book itself is inscribed by Lowell C to someone called Kim, who apparently gave him a tour of the 1997 Toy Fair. The dealer very kindly enclosed a bag of English Breakfast tea to add to the reading experience, sort of the book-buying equivalent of getting a plastic United pin from the flight attendant. It gave me a happy.

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Whiners Without a Clue

Date: 2002-07-18 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Okay 'ladies', here's a little word to the wise, if you don't know what the heck you're bitching about, keep you big mouths shut! I'm so sick of people dissing other people's websites and what's up on them. It's not like this website owner asked to be 'reviewed' by you. I'm sure she'd ask professionals instead. I was browsing and came up on this trash comment about her site. One question darlings, what the Hell is wrong with all of you?!? Any real MIB fan knows that taking the character of Agent Elle out of the film was a GIANT STEP backwards! I mean, HELLO STUCK UP WANNABES, she's in the friggin' series! And as for the Mercedes-free stuff, there's nothing wrong with that opinion. It's nothing against race or gender or whatever it is you'll call it to make yourselves seem less stupid. I've visited Delia's site and I don't see squat wrong with it. AND I'M A REAL MIB FAN! I'm talking both films AND the series. So I should know if something's dead wrong with Delia's views and from what I've seen it's you whiners that need your heads examined, that is provided you can pull them out of your rears long enough...
Get a job, get a life, and take a chill! If anyone wants your opinion on a REAL FIRST RATE MIB site like this girls, they'll ask.

Re: Whiners Without a Clue

Date: 2002-07-18 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkane156.livejournal.com
Ha! I'll see your films and series, and raise you the comic books. And I was into them before the first movie came out. WHO'S HARDCORE NOW? Huh? Huh?

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Oh dear.

Date: 2002-07-18 07:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] annlarimer.livejournal.com
You didn't hear the announcement on the tannoy about the brown acid, did you - Or is it just another facet of your poor reading comprehension?

Re: Whiners Without a Clue

Date: 2002-07-19 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] finabair.livejournal.com
I love the usage of the word "wannabes". You mean, after all this discussion, you *still* don't understand that NONE of us would want to be like the site owner?

And since you're on the topic of there being nothing wrong with having an opinion...why do you keep dissin' ours? I mean, I realize you're the typical "yes-men" society and all, but if you're gonna use the argument that negative opinions are OK, you've *got* to realize that this implies OUR opinions are OK, too.

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